OKGOP candidates Cheryl Williams and Gary Jones debate in Muskogee (Photo by Andrew W. Griffin)

RDR: GOP chair candidates Jones and Williams debate at Muskogee meeting

By - March 30, 2009 3:55 PM

By Andrew W. Griffin

Red Dirt Report, editor

Posted: March 30, 2009

MUSKOGEE – Braving a snowstorm, the two candidates vying for the position of Oklahoma Republican Chairman – current Chairman Gary Jones and Vice-Chair Cheryl Williams – had a heated debate at a meeting of state District 2 at the main library in Muskogee.

Both candidates started off noting how they were both raised in Oklahoma and how they live and work in the state – Jones, a trained CPA from Comanche County and Williams from Edmond.

Jones, who has been endorsed by U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Muskogee, highlighted how he has worked hard, even before becoming chairman in 2003, advancing the ideas of the party and donating thousands of dollars to the party and various Republican candidates.

“Dr. Tom Coburn is the best senator, bar none,” Jones said.

Williams, who has been a party activist for 20 years, claimed early on that she had donated $30,000 to the party and candidates but when Jones showed the crowd of 80 or so people Federal Election Commission and ethics reports noting that Williams has given little more than a couple of hundred dollars in recent years, Williams did not effectively counter Jones’s discovery, only acting surprised by the revelation.

The debate was moderated and pre-written questions were asked by the moderator. This debate took place Saturday afternoon following a talk given by Coburn.

It was clear that the two candidates had differing views on how to best advance the interests of the Oklahoma Republican Party.

Williams seemed short of fresh ideas beyond red-meat conservative issues like promoting “Reclaiming Oklahoma for Christ” and trying to attract younger voters to the party by holding Christian rock concerts. Other faiths were not mentioned.

“Faith does impact my politics,” Williams said.

Jones, meanwhile, stuck to the issues and how he has been extremely effective in moving the party forward, highlighting how he has focused on attracting Democrats in rural Oklahoma to the Republican Party.

“Rural Oklahoma is different,” Jones said. “We picked up 26 seats in Oklahoma, 24 of which were in rural Oklahoma.”

“We’ve got to get the public and the grassroots involved,” Jones said. “We’ve got to go out and talk about the issues they care about.”

Jones also told the Republican group that he had done a lot to root out corruption in Oklahoma, working with the FBI to expose former Kiamichi-area pols like Gene Stipe, Mike Mass and other Democrats who have betrayed the public trust and used their position for personal gain.

“Don’t tell our Republicans that they are scandalous and corrupt when it’s you guys who are in prison,” Jones said, pointing the finger at Democrats.

At one point, Jones got choked up talking about his son, who just completed training to be a forward observer in the U.S. Marine Corps.

Jones outlined his history, noting that he went to Cameron University in Lawton, worked for Southwestern Bell, was in private business and served as a County Commissioner.

He emphasized the need to make “government more efficient and more effective.”

Jones said as chairman, he has traveled to all corners of the state, having already put 200,000 miles on his vehicles.

Despite all that, and his long-time dedication and hard work, Williams came out swinging.

“In 2006, when Gary left, he left it broke,” Williams said. “I’ve done everything I can to make this party better.”

Jones emphasized his good stewardship of party funds, saying he left the party “in a very good financial position.”

And to support that statement, financial reports later obtained by Red Dirt Report show approximately $102,000 of cash on hand when Jones stepped down in May 2006.

And the party remains in solid shape to this day under his leadership.

“Since I’ve been chairman I’ve raised $3 million,” Jones said.

“We have raised more money in the last two years than we ever have,” Jones said. “And we’ve managed the money to go to resources and to get people elected.”

Added Jones: “The money we get is spent very efficiently.”

“I’ve raised (money) for the counties … I’ve asked people to give to the party,” Williams said, adding later, “I believe when you have money to give, you do it.”

But Jones emphasized to the crowd that electing Williams is risky.

“We can’t go with someone who is not a proven commodity,” Jones said. “Let’s talk specifics. We need someone who is a proven leader who has (raised money).”

“I’ve been the joke of a lot of rumors and the butt end of a lot of rumors,” Williams said, adding that she “doesn’t talk to the media much.”

Jones, a seasoned, media-savvy candidate, is a common feature in news articles and on Oklahoma talk radio.

A question addressed to the candidates asked how they would help District 2 and Republicans. Williams said she is “willing to do the work” but Jones would not give her approval.

Jones scoffed at this notion, saying that he has never prevented Williams from working on Republican Party projects.

“You can’t stop Cheryl Williams from doing anything,” Jones replied.

Jones then responded to the question, saying, “We’ve worked with the Second District in every meeting there has been.”

Asked how to best attract conservative Democrats to the party, Williams noted that you have to work with folks one-on-one. She also talked about the recent Tea Party at the State Capitol and how a Democrat came up to her telling her that she made him realize that he needed to be with the party.

In summary, Jones and Williams laid out their strengths. While Williams implied that Jones was “complacent” and that term limits for party chairmen are needed, she vowed that she would only serve two terms if elected. She also noted that the vice-chair candidate is an African-American named Don Smitherman and that it is a sign that diversity is returning to the party.

Jones said the 2010 election is critical. The governor’s office can be taken by Republicans, as can the office of Attorney General, Insurance Commissioner and so forth.

“We’ve got a proven track record,” Jones said, adding, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it.”

For more information on the Oklahoma Republican Party, go to www.okgop.com.

Copyright 2009 West Marie Media

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Gary Jones has done a great job for the Republican Party. He should definitely be re-elected.
Great article. Sums up the debate very well. (and I agree with scoutgirl)
I attended the debate myself. Gary is a tireless leader who doesn't forget the smaller counties. I believe the results of republicans gaining control of the legislature speak well for him. Let's keep him and see if we can work together and take the governor's office, AG's office and more county offices.
I'm back. Gary Jones has passed up several opportunities to move his career forward as most people interpret career moves. He has been offered jobs at the national level at twice the pay. Gary Jones has decided to stay with the Oklahoma Republican Party and continue its winning ways. Is there a Republican in the State of Oklahoma that would vote to hire John Blake when they had a chance to give Bob Stoops four more years.. That is the difference in Ms Williams and Mr. Jones. John Blake loves OU and OU football. While he was coach, he gave OU everything he had. Problem was, when it came to coaching ability, John Blake didn't have very much. Bob Stoop, on the other had, had a lot to give to OU. There are alot of people that think things happen without cause, effort , and ability. Winning coachs just have good players, they were just lucky. He just found good candidates. He didn't have anything to do with winning. Why would anyone think that someone who just wanted to do their best would be effective getting people elected, when they never have gotten any one elected. Ability and talent matter. Wanting to do something very hard to do is not enough. Keep Gary Jones as Repulican Party Chair and win the governorship, AJ, and all the rest. Hire John Blake and have 4&8 season!!!!!!!
Your report on this is a little one sided don't you think? I was there,and Mr. Jones was very smug and condescending,as well as rude .And to my knowledge,Dr. Coburn has not publically endorsed anyone in this particular race. If Mr. Jones has done such a wonderful job as chair,how come we only hold three(3)statewide offices?
Just to set the record straight - from the Gary Jones/Angie LaPlante Facebook page ... GARY JONES ANNOUNCES INTENTIONS TO SEEK RE-ELECTION AS GOP CHAIR Coburn Applauds Decision by Jones OKLAHOMA CITY (February 5, 2009)– Oklahoma Republican Party Chairman Gary Jones today officially announced his intention to run for re-election as the leader of the state party. "It has been an honor to serve as chairman of our great party," said Jones. "We've accomplished a lot, but we have more to do and that's why I am seeking re-election to finish the job." Dubbed the "hardest working man in Oklahoma politics" by local newspaper editor Frosty Troy, Jones has successfully steered the Oklahoma Republican Party to unprecedented gains in the state, despite some of the toughest national political environments for Republicans in recent memory. In 2008, Oklahoma was the only state in the nation where every county went red for the McCain-Palin presidential ticket, helping Oklahoma down ballot candidates tremendously. McCain's 65.4% share of the vote in Oklahoma was the highest in the nation. U.S. Senator Tom Coburn, M.D. applauded the announcement by Jones. "Chairman Jones has put together a good team at the Oklahoma Republican Party that is proven and ready to lead us in the critical 2010 elections. Our statewide wins in 2008 helped take the majority in the Oklahoma Senate for the first time in state history, and we will need this type of leadership going into the 2010 election cycle. I wholeheartedly support Chairman Jones in his re-election," Coburn said. If Senator Coburn seeks re-election in 2010, his U.S. Senate race will be the top of the ticket in Oklahoma. Jones added: "We will not rest on our laurels. As chairman, I will continue to launch new ideas and initiatives that will keep Oklahoma a shining star among state party organizations." In the coming weeks, Jones plans to release a detailed Oklahoma Republican Party plan of action for the 2010 election cycle. Gary Jones can be contacted at garyjones4chairman@gmail.com or 405-245-6379
That still doesn't answer the question about why we only have three(3) statewide offices held.Not a real impressive resume if you ask me.
And what exactly has your candidate achieved to advance the party in any significant way? Sour grapes, pal.
Re-electing Jones would risk the Oklahoma Republican Party's very survival. He has been unwilling to work with people, regardless of their political viewpoints. If it isn't HIS way, there is NO way to get anything done. He has fired staffers because they dared to do their job! He may be nice to you now, but just wait until he has a tirade! I'm voting for Cheryl because she treats everyone fairly and has proven herself to be a steady hand. P.S. Gary may say he's not running for Auditor ... this year... but he's quit once and will do it again if he thinks he can get away with it. But maybe he is going to run for something else, he's not one to keep any commitment, or even his word. It's always about Gary, not the party!
"Re-electing Jones would risk the Oklahoma Republican Party's very survival." Actually, the opposite is probably true. Williams/Smitherman may be viewed by some as "nice people" (although it would seem that Ms. Williams plays fast and loose with certain facts). But there is nothing to suggest that Williams/Smitherman would be anywhere nearly as effective in party building, fund raising, and representing the OKGOP in the media as Jones/LaPlante. Williams would be a step back and a step toward chaos. I've seen Williams speak several times and her "stump speech" is indeed long on conservative platitudes and short on new ideas. Telling us how conservative she is does no good if she can't articulate a specific vision on where she would lead the OKGOP, how much it would cost, and how it would be better than what Jones has accomplished. Williams does not have a strong television presence, and to some comes off as a bit "Hillary-esque." As for the vice-chair candidates, Don Smitherman played OU football a couple of decades ago, worked as a staffer for J.C. Watts, and has had a fairly journeyman career as a trial lawyer with several OKC firms. Respectable, yes, but hardly an overwhelming set of party-building or administrative skills. While the GOP (both in Oklahoma and nationally) needs improved outreach to conservatives and values voters of color, the Williams/Smitherman ticket has demonstrated no particular abilities or plans to accomplish such outreach. On the other hand, Ms.LaPlante has amassed an extraordinary of expanding party participation in a short period of time. She is well-spoken and very telegenic. She's a good stump speaker, which could help county party-building efforts and fundraising. Jones should not be blamed for the "Brad Henry/trial lawyer" era in State government. The Democrats' state-wide success has occurred mostly because of factors outside of the OKGOP's direct control. Who at the OKGOP could have stopped trial lawyer Gary Richardson from splitting the vote and engineering Henry's first win? How could can Jones fairly be held responsible for not derailing powerful incumbents, such as AG Drew Edmondson and teacher union-supported Sandy Garrett? Why is it Jones' fault that Fallin abandoned certain reelection as Lt. Gov. for a congressional seat? Why should Jones be blamed for Istook's lack of state-wide appeal or Largent's stolid campaign? What Jones should be lauded for is his record in raising money, improving voter outreach (such as the 72-hour program) and recruiting competitive legislative candidates. The OKGOP has "picked up 26 seats in the Oklahoma Legislature, 24 of which were in rural Oklahoma" under Jones' leadership. Republicans now have control of both the House and the Senate…the first time in Oklahoma history. While this is a historic triumph that involved hundreds, if not thousands, of grassroots Oklahoma Republicans, Jones has provided crucial leadership. THAT IS AN IMPRESSIVE RECORD! Jones has also helped root out corruption in Oklahoma. He worked with the FBI to expose the Democratic corruption ring that included Gene Stipe, Mike Mass, and Jeff McMahan. In short, Williams/Smitherman have simply failed to make a case for ousting the current leadership and taking a gamble with the future of the OKGOP. On the other hand, Jones/LaPlante have articulated and demonstrated a successful pattern of leadership. There's simply no good reason not to reelect Jones and elect LaPlante.
You give Gary TOO much credit for supposedly bringing down the Stipes, etal. He came in on the tail end of an investigation... Stipe had already given up his Senate seat and had been convicted. I think the FBI was well on their way to a conviction before Gary showed up on the scene. Federal investigations and grand juries take YEARS to indict anyone. Gary just happened to be Chair when it all came down. Again, he takes credit for what happened when he was Chair... instead of giving the credit to those who did the work. Gary consistently wants to take credit for the successes, but not the problems. It's time for new leadership at the State GOP. P.S. That also means Oklahoma would have voted for McCain, or any other Republican, over any democrat in 2008. It wasn't Gary making it all happen. Maybe the credit should go to our US Senator and Congressmen who ran very successful campaigns, as well as helping the party to raise the money for Victory.
Just to chime in... Gary was not the one who put the FBI on Gene Stipe. Representative Mike Reynolds should get all the credit for the Gene Stipe (and all those associated with him) scandal being brought to light. I like Gary, but give credit where credit is due. Mike Reynolds is the one who deserves all the credit on Gene Stipe and the whole mess of slimeballs that were with him.