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RDR for the separation of church and chicken

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A rainbow flag flaps in the breeze outside a Chick-fil-A restaurant.

By Andrew W. Griffin

Red Dirt Report, editor

Posted: August 3, 2012

reddirtreporter@gmail.com

OPINION

OKLAHOMA CITY – Did I eat at Chick-fil-A this week out of some sort of solidarity with a bunch of reactionary people looking to make a point against “the gays” and to nosh on some fast-food chicken?

No.

However, I did see people lining up in some locations here in Oklahoma City but it didn’t seem busier than any other day. The local media, though, ate it up, as it were, showing how the “silent majority” wanted to send a message to gay Oklahomans that their Chick-fil-A chick-n-strips are more important than sending a positive message that they love all of their neighbors as Christ would have wanted. (Paging Sally Kern … Sally Kern please pick up the white phone).

 I’ve eaten at Chick-fil-A a number of times in my life but this whole “controversy” has made me lose my appetite. As a former Louisianan, I think I'll go for some Popeye's instead.

So why is your Red Dirt Reporter disappointed with Chick-fil-A and its supporters? Because you had a lot of people supporting a restaurant chain run by a guy who keeps his bigotry at the forefront. Sure, CEO Dan Cathy's employees are forced to be friendly and polite and that’s nice. But that polite mask hides something more sinister – a seeming desire to poke a stick in the eye of LGBT Oklahomans and Americans – that “their kind” aren’t welcome in our scrubbed restaurants catering towards wholesome, 50’s-styled “just folks” crowd. And to think that conservative Arky gasbag Mike Huckabee was behind it. Who’da thought?

While everyone has a right to express their personal views (I’m no vocab Stalinist), Chick-fil-A CEO Dan Cathy knew exactly what he was doing expressing his anti-gay views. Asked if he was against gay marriage, Cathy responded; “Guilty as charged.” He says he bases his decision on “biblical principles.” Weren’t “biblical principles” used as as a justification 150 years ago in order to keep the business of slavery in the black?

And this, from a guy who has contributed as much as $5 million to anti-gay causes and groups, like the Family Research Council – the same group that promotes controversial “conversion therapy” and lobbied Congress not to condemn the horrific “Kill the Gays” bill in Uganda, which we have written about multiple times here at Red Dirt Report.

Sure, Chick-fil-A restaurants had “record-setting” days and saw their business increase by as much as 200 percent on Wednesday’s “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day.” That’s American capitalism for you.

But with those remarkable receipts comes a loss – a loss in civility. I’ve never seen a country so divided. Even though I missed the Civil Rights era by about a decade, I couldn’t help but think of those “Whites Only” lunch counters that peppered the country, particularly in the American South. Sure, Chick-fil-A may serve gay Americans, but I suspect they won’t like doing it. We’ll see how that scheduled “National Same-Sex Kiss Day” goes when it concludes later today.

And what’s so striking is that this clash is coming at a time when marriage equality is spreading into increasing numbers of states, regardless of the underhanded efforts of groups like the anti-gay National Organization for Marriage.

I can’t ignore the arrogance and boastfulness coming from the pro-Chick-fil-A crowd. It seems very un-Christlike to me. In fact, ask anyone supporting Chick-fil-A if they really think Jesus would’ve been in a queue with the rest of the chicken-n-waffle-fry seekers. If they were intellectually honest they’d say he would not.

And to see Baptist ministers, Catholic cardinals and others weighing in, supporting Chick-fil-A, makes me uncomfortable. But then I'm not a fan of Rahm "Chicago values" Emanuel and his ilk. 

Of course these are very strange times. Very uncertain and difficult times. And rather than further seeking division and to “make a point” that your side is better and right, we should be looking past our differences and find common ground. I know it’s not easy but hey, we sent astronauts to the Moon, right?

Copyright 2012 Red Dirt Report

 

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will irwin Aug 06, 2012
Again, I don't think Cathy did anything wrong. But he will have to deal with the consequences. In the long run, I don't think it will help or hurt his bottom line much.
RDR Aug 06, 2012
Perhaps Dan Cathy wants the publicity. It certainly helped his bottom line. Will he dig in his heels or will he say Chick-fil-A welcomes everyone? Perhaps he has already done that, but I have not seen it. And you are right, just because "God said it" doesn't mean much to people who don't necessarily buy into the Biblical explanation of life, etc. This is a diverse nation and Dan Cathy needs to realize that.
scoutgirl Aug 06, 2012
Great comment Will!
will irwin Aug 06, 2012
I think most people are missing the entire point on both sides of this issue. Dan Cathy has the right to say whatever he wants and to hold any opinion that he wants. What the gay community primary has a problem with is the organizations Cathy supports with the money from his business. Again, I don't think anyone is saying he can't do that, but if he does, people have a right to protest and boycott the business. That's the beauty of capitalism and freedom. My biggest problem with the Christian side is that they are mostly doing a horrific job of explaining the Chritian stance on homosexuality. Can any of them give a good explanation of why homosexual acts are sinful other than "God says so"? If so, I haven't heard it. Don't get me wrong, I believe they are sinful. I believe they are sinful for the same reason contraception is sinful and masturbation is sinful. All of them disregard the purpose and the beauty of the sexual act and its procreative power. Basically, when we choose to engage in a sexual act that is, by our intention and chosen action, incapable of producing life, we are simply using the other person as an instrument of our own selfish pleasure. I don't have enough room to go into all the details here, but read John Paul II's Theology of the Body, or any of the commentaries on it by Christopher West and it will go a long way in explaining it.
RDR Aug 05, 2012
And I would never claim to be, Roman.
Roman Aug 04, 2012
I believe I was very clear in saying that one who has homosexual desires is not sinning. It is acting on these desires that is sinful as the Romans 1:24-27 passage makes clear. This is a difficult thing for many but God makes the rules and He makes it clear this behavior is wrong.You may disagree but you are not God.
RDR Aug 04, 2012
Hey everyone. I'm glad we can come here and discuss this topics in an open forum. I've made my position known, as have several of you. Thanks for that. To Roman: I am quite familiar with "biblical principles." Where does it say ones "eternal soul" is in jeopardy if they are gay? Also, I am put off by anyone who is hateful and obnoxious. I ended my piece by suggesting we find common ground - talk to one another. I see Dan Cathy has not responded to the offer from the lesbian couple to break bread with them. If Mr. Cathy was really about "loving the sinner," wouldn't he accept their invitation? Just a thought. http://www.examiner.com/article/lesbian-couple-invites-chick-fil-a-ceo-to-dinner-i-ll-even-make-chicken
Roman Aug 04, 2012
Let's quote accurately here. Because Dan Cathy is one of few Christian businessmen left who actually put their money where their mouth is in keeping his business closed on Sundas, he was approached about his position on homosexual "marriage". This was a set-up. He simply responded that he believed marriage was a union of a man and a woman! This is exactly what Obama said when running for his first term!No one attacked Obama then. Cathy is no hater. He said he welcomed homosexuals to come to eat and work at Chik-fil-A. So WHAT is the problem?! The left does not believe in freedom of speech. It is their way or they will attack. Notice the good behavior of the supporters versus the vulgar behavior of the gay community. The truly Christian position here is to love the sinner but hate the sin(Romans 1:24-27.) Why would a good Christian want to encourage homosexual behavior (as separate from the homosexual person) when that could cost them their eternal soul? I applaud Huckabee and Cathy and am very sorry to see you have been pulled in the other direction.
Clem in Ada Aug 04, 2012
Who cares about any of this? I like chicken and ChickfilA. I go to church and i've been a faithful servant. Have you?
The Brain Aug 04, 2012
Red Scare: I think you proved the author's point that self-righteous intolerance is rife within the chicken-loving Christian community. Where is this "one man and one woman" business you speak of. I don't think King Solomon followed that rule. As for Chick-fil-A, the owner is clearly a devout Christian. I would like to get their food on Sundays (even though folks should really go to church on Saturdays). We have real problems in the world. Gays, evangelicals and tasty chicken are not one of them.
WHoa Whoa Aug 04, 2012
Sorry but when Mayors want to shut down a few stores who hire and serve everyone, because their founder exercised his right to free speech. Isn't that fascist?
Just Sayin' Aug 03, 2012
While I don't agree with your views, I agree that you have the right to them. I think that was what brought most people out - the idea that anymore gays can say what they want but people who don't believe in that lifestyle can't. And that isn't right. If one side wants to spout their view, the other side should be able to spout their view as well. That is just my opinion.
red scare Aug 03, 2012
I'm sorry, but this post is pretty much garbage. If there is any hate present, it is from the people like this poster who support Gay Marriage (Marriage Equality is an Orwellian term). Dan Cathy said he supported traditional marriage, when asked. Just like Carry Prejean said she supported traditional marriage, when asked. I do not know why all the pro-gay marriage crowd thinks that the majority of us who oppose the practice should pretend like we don't. If I had any gay family members, they would know I love them but did not approve, just like my family members who live with someone they are not married to know I love them but do not approve. And yes, a state has the right to declare its preferred family unit structure and if it happens to be one man with one woman and minor children, we are allowed to do that. Gay Marriage is about forcing all members of society to recognize as legitimate the union of members of the same-sex as legitimate life partners. As far as being Christ-like, if the author of this article honestly believes that on his judgment day the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are going to say "well done my good and faithful servant, thank you for standing against the people who were quietly showing support of what they thought was my plan for one man and one woman, and joining the chorus of voices who had their own ideas" he is entitled to his opinion. From this article, I don't get the impression he gives a rip about being Christ-like, and this article certainly does not express the Christ-like sentiment towards the the people who support Chic-fil-a that the author claims those people should have been showing to the gay marriage crowd. This article certainly does not sound like "I love them but they're wrong."
redscout Aug 03, 2012
Everyone needs to look at what is working on both sides here. The gay rights people wants everyone to endorse their way of life and the evangelists believe that a gay person is a affront to their religion. The gays need to understand that most people don't care what they do as long as they don't have to see it and the evangelists need to understand that they had better take care of their own salvation and let everyone else take care of theirs. This hA nothing to do with politics and everything to do with bigotry
scoutgirl Aug 03, 2012
First off, I love, love, love Chick-fil-A! But this whole deal is ridiculous!