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RDR: Murrah bombing survivor says feds involved in blast that killed 168 in '95

By Andrew W. Griffin

Red Dirt Report, editor

Posted: April 19, 2010

reddirtreporter@gmail.com

OKLAHOMA CITY – While Oklahoma and the rest of the world respectfully remember the 168 people who died in the bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah federal building here in Oklahoma City, one survivor of the April 19, 1995 blast, Jane Graham, wants her questions about what really happened that day answered once and for all.

Graham, a native of Chicago who was working for the HUD office on the ninth floor of the Murrah building that morning told Red Dirt Report that there were a lot of strange things going on in the weeks leading up to the bombing, things that she shared numerous times with federal agents, things she felt were ignored. This included the presence of maintenance workers she did not recognize, military people in the parking garage and more unusual activity.

But one of the key figures – the bomber himself – Timothy McVeigh, was spotted in the federal building on a number of occasions.

“It was a couple of weeks before the bombing. I had seen McVeigh in the building prior to the bombing, around the first week of April.”

McVeigh, Graham said, rode up in an elevator with her while she was heading to her office one morning.

“He was in military fatigues,” Graham told Red Dirt Report. “I looked at him and said ‘hi’ and he simply looked straight ahead. He got off on the sixth floor. I turned to someone else on the elevator and said, ‘Well, he’s certainly not very friendly.”

Another time, Graham said, he was in the elevator again and got off on the ninth floor, where the Secret Service and BATF offices were located.

Another unusual event, Graham recalled, was on Friday April 14, 1995. She said she parked in the Murrah parking garage and she noticed three men standing together on the south side of the parking area. One of the men was holding what looked like floor plans. She said at first she thought about the recent phone problems that had been plaguing the building and problems with gas fumes in the area.

“I watched them carefully,” Graham said. “They were standing behind a light green station wagon, like an old Country Squire wagon. It was filthy and I couldn’t see the plate on it.”

As she watched the three men, one of whom was wearing dark clothing and two wearing short sleeves and jeans, one of the men held a sack and “a roll of what appeared to be telephone wire.”

“They were watching me and I was watching them,” she said, noting that the tall man – “a good looking man,” as Graham described him – walked to the north side of the lot. She said she thought this man was Andreas Strassmeir, known as “Andy the German,” a German white supremacist linked with the bombing and the racist Elohim City compound out in Adair County.

Graham said the other two men “looked like military.” They had that military bearing, she said.

Fast-forward to the day before the bombing, Graham said she was running late to work and as she came downstairs she ran into two men in General Services Administration uniforms, one of whom was older and was asking the other man “how does this work?”

She did not recognize these men and thought their presence curious.

She also said she was approached by a man who identified himself as an "FBI agent”* who wanted to know about the men. She also said Trish Nix, one of the 168 victims, had allegedly asked Graham if she had “seen the bomb squad” outside, noting they were in the parking lot of the nearby Catholic Church.

“No, I haven’t seen them,” Graham said she responded. Graham said Nix then said, “I think they’re in the building.”

Graham said she went on to a Windows ’95 computer training meeting and that once she got settled is when all hell broke loose.

“Everybody beneath your desk, it’s an earthquake,” Graham said the class was told.

“I thought, ‘this is not an earthquake,’ Graham recalls thinking. “The next thing I knew, was a huge explosion. I felt the floor rise up underneath me. I looked up in the air and could see the roof suspended in the sky. Then there was black dust and it smelled like sulfur … a lady next to men and another men said ‘we’ve got to get out of here.’”

Disoriented, Graham said the smoke was thick and black. She managed to make her way out of the building, all the while thinking of the children in the day care center located in the building.

“I told someone, ‘The children in the day care, we’ve got to get them out.’” But Graham was told to keep on moving on out of the building and told to go to Robinson street.

Graham said the rest of the day she was in a daze. She was trying to get help and later get cleaned up because she felt as if she had fiberglass all over her body.

Graham said a post office employee, who worked at the post office across the street from the Murrah building, told her that “the bomb detail with dogs” had been patrolling the area near the building. However, this worker, Graham said, was warned not to talk about what she sad or she would lose her post office job.

One thing the postal worker told Graham is that McVeigh and “John Doe 2” had been in the post office.

Graham said that as a survivor and one with information, she wanted to help the investigators have as much information as possible. But as she shared her story, about the fatigue-wearing McVeigh figure, the mysterious men inside the Murrah building and in the parking garage, she was largely ignored if it did not follow the official story involving McVeigh and the Ryder truck bomb.

“I was stonewalled,” Graham said. “No one wanted me to draw a picture, take a look at a picture or describe him.”

Added a clearly frustrated Graham: “Never to this day did I hear from anyone.”

Graham said her co-workers who survived largely don’t want to believe the government was involved in the bombing.

Graham, meanwhile, has her strong suspicions about the government and their complicity. She said her father was the secretary-treasurer of the AFL-CIO labor organization in Chicago and when he was asked if he wanted to lead the group, he said he would have more influence controlling the funds.

“It’s all about power and control,” Graham said, adding, “This has nothing to do with a foreign government. I am utterly convinced the ATF and the FBI are involved in the bombing of that building.”

She said they will not admit complicity mainly because “they don’t want to open themselves up to a liability suit.”

*Correction: This originally read "CIA agent." The interview subject said it was a man who was an "FBI agent." Red Dirt Report regrets the error.

Copyright 2010 West Marie Media

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anonymous Apr 25, 2010
My childhood friend lost 2 grandsons in the daycare that day. One of the boys would have been graduating high school this year, one probably learning to drive. My parents, who lived 13 miles from OKC, felt the earh shake while they were in the backyard. I stood at "ground zero" a week after the bombing having traveled to be with family and friends during this horrofic situation. Seems like yesterday...when will we, Americans, "wake up and smell Rome burning"??
dogsoldier0513 Apr 21, 2010
McVeigh was caught 'too quickly' and 'too conveniently' for my LEO background to feel 'comfortable' with.
anonymous Apr 20, 2010
i agree there is just too much unanswered here concerning the governing bodies ATF & FBI that continue to hide in the shadows. kudos to graham for speaking her truth as she witnessed in on the days in question to the bombing of the building.
anonymous Apr 20, 2010
thank you for sharing
WakeUpU.S. Apr 20, 2010
Ret. Brigadier General Benton K. Partin, former director of the Air Force Armament Technology Laboratory and one of the world's premier explosive experts, released a detailed analysis of the bombing back in 1995, I believe, that effectively dismantled the governments cover story and proved, scientifically and conclusively, that high explosives must have been used inside the building, in addition to the truck bomb outside. The report was submitted to the U.S. Congress and is a matter of the Congressional Record. Now make what you will of that, but if one of the world's leading explosive experts, not to mention a highly respected retired general, tells the government something stinks about the bombing, then creates a detailed technical report PROVING it, and still nothing is done....COME ON!!!?? The OKC Bombing was a false flag operation, perpetrated by elements of our military industrial complex. No doubt about it!
Jason Apr 20, 2010
This woman is a hero. Jason the Fed
Karl Apr 20, 2010
Just another example of how the US Government massacres its own population (including little children) so they can put more control over the people and take their rights so as to push through their agenda of fascism unopposed. How much more evidence does one need to see that the real enemy is them, they are the terrorists, they are the war criminals, they are the "Axis of Evil", they are the nuclear threat. I'm Australian but can confidently say the US Constitution is by far the greatest document ever written (except for the Bible of course :) ) in what it has postively done for humanity, and wouldn't hesitate to put everything I have (including life) to its protection. I hope you guys realise how lucky you are and the responsibility that is now on everyone to protect personal liberty, whatever the cost. The men who walked into bullets on D-Day did it so you can have freedom, don't let the tyrants in power take it, it is your turn to take the bullet, lest those mens' sacrifice be in vain.
Dannie Apr 20, 2010
April 19th was a horrible day in Oklahoma history, Just another act by our loving government against the people to control our every move.
Gary Apr 20, 2010
Excellent, Andrew! By the way, I'm a former life-long resident of OKC. We chatted via email once, a couple of years ago, when you came across either one of my articles, about last summer's NLE '09. I moved a few months later. You're doing good work. Keep it up.
anonymous Apr 20, 2010
The initial " earthquake " felt in the computer class were the cutter charges that had been pre-placed on certain reinforced concrete columns in the building to soften the building prior to the detonation of the truck bomb. Otherwise the truck bomb could not have done the damage seen in the photo graphs. Several interesting parallels to 911 in the aftermath and clean up. Such as...no forensic investigation of the destruction, perpetrator identified almost immediately, same company in charge of the cleanup, rapid removal and destruction of the debris ( evidence )...
growabrain Apr 19, 2010
All you have to do is watch the initial news reports. In these reports they found two other bombs that did not go off. The US government wanted the whole building to fall, and to kill as many as they could. Just like 911 they can't do anything right.
david Apr 19, 2010
i thought it strange that a truck bomb in this circumstance could inflict the damage to the building that it didl. or supposedly did........the crater the bomb created was a curiosity and the fact that is was filled in very quickly is too........ sorry, once again i don't believe the government......
D Apr 19, 2010
My eyes been so awakened in the past year and mainly the past 6 months I'm shocked at how I never even suspected these kind of events were taking place. I consider myself to be intelligent but I now can see it. It's like those pictures that have hidden things in the design and you can't see them until you really focus on it then suddenly you see what wasn't there a second ago. I 1st became suspicious of 9/11 but everyone believed the government so what did I know? It wasn't until all of the pieces were put together for me by Alex Jones that I connected the dots and it all makes sense to me. I've recently read many things about the OKC bombing that is indisputable evidence of government involvement and planning which only strengthens my understanding of what actually happened on 9/11. Now our government is talking about striking Iran. Where does the madness end?
Doug Millar Apr 19, 2010
FANTASTIC REPORT! Hoppy Heidelberg, the Oklahoma City bombing federal grand juror and whistleblower, was fired for asking questions of the U.S. attorney, U.S. federal judge and federal witnesses in the city. In March, 1999 Ted Gunderson, retired head of the FBI's second largest field office, Los Angeles, and I co-hosted a national security conference in Las Vegas on April 15-18. After visiting Heidelberg in his home and interviewing him there on Christmas night, 1997, I called and invited him to speak in Vegas, but since he is a rancher, April 19 is the middle of his calving season; so he recommended two potential speakers, Jane Graham and Cary Gagan. I called both of them, separately, and they told me why they knew there was such a shocking FBI and BATF crime cover-up. Due to the issues Mrs. Graham is reporting in this excellent "Red Dirt Report," she discussed the risks of going public with her husband. Since several city police and families questioning the feds' cover-ups were murdered and "suicided," due to this FBI/CIA bombing operation used to pass the feds' National Terrorism Act, after the FBI's bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993 failed to pass the same legislation, she declined to speak. However, she did tell me everything reported here, plus she had great credibility, because she was the Oklahoma federal employees' union president. You need to go to YouTube to see Heidelberg's questions of Cary Gagan, and Gagan's shocking sworn testimony. Gagan risked his life to warn the feds five times, during the six months prior to the bombing, after he was paid $250,000 by two Arabs to smuggle in bomb components from Mexico. Around the first of March, 1999, Gagan told Heidelberg and his witnesses the money was transferred from a Colombian bank account, and Gagan gave Heidelberg a copy of the bank's $250,000 transfer document to Gagan's account. Heidelberg says this was CIA, not Muslim funded, and I certainly believe their statements. GAGAN'S REWARD? Like Michael Ricconoscuito, who worked for the CIA for 20 years, Gagan was framed, after he and I met a few times. The CIA requires its agents and officers to commit crimes; so it can control and frame them later, if they try to blow a whistle. Ricconoscuito told me on the phone 14 years ago that he had been in a federal prison for six years, and if he didn't get out in the next six months, he expected to die there. He is still in a federal prison, and Gunderson has been meeting with him 3-4 days each week for months, due to their new strategy to try and get him released. After I arranged for John DeCamp and Gagan to meet in Denver, just before Christmas, 1999, Gagan gave me a report that the Muslims planned to use fatal gas at two locations on the same date: #1 - A major shopping center in Oklahoma City a couple of days before New Year Day, 1999, plus #2 - The Brochos' last football game in the old stadium on the same Saturday. Two of us drove all night to give Gagan's report to an honest Oklahoma City police detective he trusted. Immediately after our meeting with the cop, we met with Heidelberg and some of his friends, before we drove back to Denver, ASAP that same night. But before leaving OKC, as life insurance, we gave copies to Heidelberg, and some of his friends. After 4 PM Friday evening, we arrived at the Colorado State capitol in Denver, and gave a copy of Gagan's report to our lieutenant governor, plus the state trooper who was meeting with him. We were taken to the capitol's basement and questioned. I asked to speak to Denver Detective Fisher who had met with me in late August, 1999. Fisher was on the FBI's Joint Terrorism Task Force, but by then it was 5 PM and he didn't want to meet with us. After I embarrassed him by insisting a few times, with several state police listening, he agreed to come to the meeting. MINUTES AFTER THE BRONCHOS GAME STARTED, I CALLED GAGAN AND HE ASSURED ME BOTH ATTACKS HAD BEEN CANCELLED. HIS REWARDS FOR RISKING HIS LIFE TO SAVE THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS' LIVES? HE WAS FRAMED AND SENTENCED TO 26 YEARS IN THE STATE PRISON! REMEMBER, "FREEDOM IS not FREE!" For Christ, Children, Constitution, Country & Belated Justice, Doug Millar (707) 396-8215 PS I have no time to read more than one out of 100 emails; so for more details, please call me.
WT Apr 19, 2010
I was living close to Washington Missouri at the time this tragic event took place in 1995. My wife and I happened to be watching the TV at the same time the major news media began reporting on the incident. Immediately following the initial news report describing the blast that had just occurred, a detailed pencil sketch of three men with middle Eastern facial features was posted across the TV screen there in Washington Missouri. The sketch showed these three men sitting side by side as if you were looking at them through the windshield of their pick-up truck all crammed together; the perspective of this sketch was drawn as if someone had accidently walked in front of their vehicle, stood in the middle against their bumper, and forced them to stop while the sketch was completed. It was an hour or so later when reports started filtering in about the search for McVeigh and accomplice number two. Can someone in Missouri please check the records and transcripts that were initially broadcast that day to see if they can track down that sketch? It may have significant implication in light of all the other evidence that has surfaced regarding this case.
ss Apr 19, 2010
The real terrorists are in the government. McVeigh was a patsy.
anonymous Apr 19, 2010
White people are responsible for alllllllllllllll terrorism on the planet!!!
Virgil Apr 19, 2010
If only our beloved local news 4, 5 or 9 would cover something like this. I was pretty young when this happened but even back then I remember having a lot of questions that went unanswered. Those folks that died that day and afterwards as a result of the cover up deserve justice and it makes me personally ILL that it has gone on this long.